|  BobbyDarin | May 10, 12:53pm | | The push for Clinton to quit has become stronger. Why should she quit? Isn't the point of democracy to let the will of the people be heard? To me, this sounds like the Obama pundits and supporters are scared that he is incapable of winning and the only way he'll win is by default (Clinton quitting). |
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Sponsor |  AlternaDad | May 10, 8:07pm | | I blame the system. We could do so much better than this. We could get it done quick and easy by a simple majority vote of the eligible population with every state voting on the same day. Forget delegates, and while we're at it, loose the electoral college as well. |
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Sponsor | | trevho | May 10, 8:20pm | | normaly I agree with you adad but our current system is constitutional unlike your idea. Not that it is a bad one it would sure be faster |
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Sponsor | | ntltrmllgnc | May 10, 8:41pm | quitting means the party stops imploding
delegates decide party policy, how about we try to be delegates?
on the other hand what a brilliant idea, let's have parties where membership doesn't mean anything
what an even more brilliant idea, let's have a system where the 51% winning party gloats at the 49%
think about it for a second, is it really mentally healthy for a country to fight over that critical 2%
the only reason people hate the delegates and electoral college is because they watch too much tv
if you want to get rid of the electoral college then make it a rule that the winner has to achieve at least a 20 point lead and to be 2 points ahead, then 5 points, then 9 points, then 14 points, then 20 points at regularly spaced points in the campaign |
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Sponsor | | AlternaDad | May 11, 12:58am | Actually, I hate the electoral college because GWB won his first presidential election without a majority vote of the people.
Also, this whole delegate thing is just annoying and time consuming. There has got to be a better way to do both. |
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Sponsor | | ntltrmllgnc | May 11, 1:14am | the majority vote? lol. it was a tiny difference
51 to 49 should be grounds for disqualification
51 to 49 is the establishment laughing at us
GWB won because Gore let the court decide and Kerry bent over
the delegates do MORE than just vote on the nominee
inconvenience is least important thing in the world |
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Sponsor | | AlternaDad | May 11, 8:03am | "the majority vote? lol. it was a tiny difference"
So where is the line then? What is an acceptable majority to YOU?
"51 to 49 should be grounds for disqualification"
Disqualification from what, and who should be disqualified?
"51 to 49 is the establishment laughing at us"
Ok. I'll laugh right back.
"GWB won because Gore let the court decide and Kerry bent over"
What could Gore have done to prevent the Supreme Court from nominating GWB as president? I'm not being sarcastic, I truly would like to know what he could have said to prevent that.
"the delegates do MORE than just vote on the nominee"
Ok. The current system still seems crappy to me though.
"inconvenience is least important thing in the world"
That is a fine opinion, and I tend to share it when it comes to everyday things, but I think the electoral college is more than simply "inconvenient". I believe it is antiquated and unnecessary and we could do more to ensure the will of the people is followed. |
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Sponsor | | trevho | May 11, 8:07am | | Adad I agree the system seems flawed however it is the best we have as well as one of the best in the world |
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Sponsor | | ntltrmllgnc | May 11, 10:29am | "So where is the line then? What is an acceptable majority to YOU?"
At least a 20 percent difference.
"Disqualification from what, and who should be disqualified?"
There should be a do over a week later. It would get rid of the vote for the winner effect.
"What could Gore have done to prevent the Supreme Court from nominating GWB as presiident? I'm not being sarcastic, I truly would like to know what he could have said to prevent that."
Gore made the decision to not allow many voters who had complaints extra time to get some signatures that would allow them to speak their concerns.
"I believe it is antiquated and unnecessary and we could do more to ensure the will of the people is followed."
Some countries have no president. Now that's new. Antiquated... Doesn't mean zip to me because human nature is the most antiquated of all. The electoral college can be fixed because it allows everyone to be heard as opposed to just the largest populated states. |
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Sponsor | | trevho | May 11, 2:49pm | | I think in elections such as this one we really need to be able to vote no confidence |
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