|  uhohzombies | Apr 16, 10:13pm | | It's okay to be a conservative, but be aware that true conservatism has been perverted and the Republican party hijacked by the neoconservative agenda which has been in planning for over 15 years. Read the article here: informationclearinghouse.info/article17194.htm [informationclearinghouse.info/article17194.htm] which explains, with excellent citation and supporting fact, the policies and agenda which have been the driving force behind the Bush administration over the last 7 years. Neoconservatives want to exploit our superpower status and relative lack of competition to engage in empire building and bringing about a "Pax Americana". This was never the intent of our founding fathers and history has proven that even the mightiest of empires will fall, but not after its citizens suffer greatly and the once powerful become impoverished and enslaved. We are Americans and free to be right, left, liberal, conservative, but these men are traitors to what it means to be an American and both sides should see them as such. Support candidates who practice principled politics, not warmongers and imperialists. It will bring all of us nothing but ruin. |
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Sponsor |  AlternaDad | Apr 17, 7:56am | I can't support Ron Paul as long as he doesn't support a woman's right to control her own body.
However, I'd take him over a neocon any day. |
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Sponsor | | ntltrmllgnc | Apr 17, 8:09am | | Can a surrogate mother have an abortion (for non-life threatening reasons)? |
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Sponsor | | Thomas-Jefferson | Apr 17, 8:15am | | Nobody has a right to their own body, we all belong to God, family and country. If I can get drafted to fight and die, a mother can damn well do her job to love her baby, or give it to someone who will. If there is one thing I am willing to kill for it is to protect the life of a baby. |
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Sponsor | | AlternaDad | Apr 17, 8:23am | "Nobody has a right to their own body, we all belong to God, family and country."
Blow me. If there is one thing in this entire world that I do own, outright, it's my body and I will do with it as I please.
"If there is one thing I am willing to kill for it is to protect the life of a baby."
Hypocrisy. |
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| | | italian-scallion | Apr 17, 8:24am | | Downright frightful. |
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Sponsor | | ntltrmllgnc | Apr 17, 8:32am | TJ, Read the constitution. We are not property. Parents who abuse their children lose them. Countries which abuse their people lose them. Was it right for the USSR to prevent people from leaving? That's what BELONG means.
6: So what about a surrogate mother? "Control her own body" is too vague. When does a baby have a body they can control? |
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Sponsor | | AlternaDad | Apr 17, 8:35am | 8 - What about a surrogate mother? *shrug* I don't know the laws pertaining to that, but it would seem that the mother has entered into a contract of sorts and therefore gives up certain rights.
"When does a baby have a body they can control?"
Sometime in the second trimester. |
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Sponsor | | usmjam | Apr 17, 8:39am | 3) great, an uninformed one issue surrender to the two-party tyranny.
Read what his position. Ron Paul would leave each state to decide what they want to do within their jurisdiction. That removes the Federal tyranny. But noooooo, you just reject anyone who doesn't ride the no-fetus-can-beat-us genocide. Enjoy it dad, you get the same old same old and then you get to sing the same old lament about how nothing ever changes in the political field.
This thread is about the Republican party no longer being what it once was. Debate about abortion is better served in the old threads, to recycle the same old arguments if you wish. The recent Republican candidates all supported abortion, except for Ron Paul. Yet even he was not going to stop it at the Federal level. He represented the ideals of true political conservatives. |
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