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Sponsor |  Ogmin | Apr 24, 8:15am | WTF?
437 children taken from their mothers by a team of soldiers and police responding to a single caller who has not been publicly identified and does not live in the community.
Invading peaceful communities and taking away their children on the basis of unsubstantiated allegations from an outsider.
Today it will be decided in a Texas court if the children will be put in foster homes for an extended period or perhaps permanently.
Nobody is going to speak up about their constitutional rights because these folks are crazy polygamists and terminally weird to the mainstream?
Why wasn't there just an investigation/arrest on the basis of the individual case(s) where there seemed to be a legal problem?
Imagine being a parent who lives in that community and having your kids taken away simply because you lived on that community and had not broken any laws.
Who is protecting who?
Like the tragedy at Waco, this is just another exercise and display of power for mr & mrs america to remember who is really in charge here and how free are we anyways. |
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| | italian-scallion | Apr 24, 8:35am | | Unrelated. |
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Sponsor | | AlternaDad | Apr 24, 8:38am | Hay! Get your own thread :P
But besides that and because I simply can't resist, those people crossed the line from weird to criminal when the old men knocked up the little girls. I don't care what your god says, the age of consent laws still apply. |
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Sponsor | | Ogmin | Apr 24, 8:54am | | Maybe so, but the charge of underage sex does not apply to ALL of those parents and kids; this is presumed guilt by association. |
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Sponsor | | AlternaDad | Apr 24, 9:09am | Not all Mormons are being investigated, just the ones at that compound where there is evidence of polygamy, pedophilia and rape.
For what it's worth, I don't agree with anti-polygamy laws. I'm a big believer in personal freedom between consenting adults.
Consenting adults. |
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Sponsor | | ntltrmllgnc | Apr 24, 9:18am | | I invoke the Niemoller principle. |
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Sponsor | | Thomas-Jefferson | Apr 24, 9:22am | 6. "Adult" is defined differently in different ways in different times and places. These mormons try to marry off girls as they hit puberty, which AFAIK is the norm throughout world history. Have you ever read the kama sutra?
God's law always trumps the law of man. Look into Natural Law.
answers.com/Natural+Law [answers.com/Natural+Law]
5/7. Agreed. |
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Sponsor | | usmjam | Apr 24, 9:36am | 7) Yep. They take an extreme case, and apply extreme measures. said measures will be applied across the board later on.
Government regulation of church conduct, of family upbringing, of every facet of personal life. All starting with an extreme case here or there.
2) Agreed. Go after the specific perps, if any. But round up the whole group? Tyranny! |
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Sponsor | | Ogmin | Apr 24, 9:43am | Marriageable age in Texas was only recently raised to 16 years from 14; that is why the compound was relocated there.
An anonymous call got it all going. Now police are looking for the woman and it seems the whole invasion may be based on a fraud.
In the meanwhile, the kids are being farmed out across the state and it could take months for all the DNA testing to be completed.
8: great point.
The youngest ages of "marriage" quoted by the newspapers so far are all within legal bounds (with parental consent) of several states. It may be that the pregnancies happened before the "marriages" like they often do everywhere else in the world.
7: Exactly; me too. |
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